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	<title>Comments on: The seedy side of Amazon&#039;s Mechanical Turk</title>
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		<title>By: Debbie Sangay</title>
		<link>http://blog.oddhead.com/2008/08/13/the-seedy-side-of-amazons-mechanical-turk/#comment-29083</link>
		<dc:creator>Debbie Sangay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jun 2011 04:04:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sam Deskin says:

 August 14, 2008 at 12:58 pm

That is why I really believe they have to want to do these things … out of boredom.
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Sort of.

1) For filler during TV time (during commercials, stc.)

2) To truly help science (surveys, etc.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sam Deskin says:</p>
<p> August 14, 2008 at 12:58 pm</p>
<p>That is why I really believe they have to want to do these things … out of boredom.<br />
&#8212;-</p>
<p>Sort of.</p>
<p>1) For filler during TV time (during commercials, stc.)</p>
<p>2) To truly help science (surveys, etc.)</p>
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		<title>By: Web Tasarim Adana</title>
		<link>http://blog.oddhead.com/2008/08/13/the-seedy-side-of-amazons-mechanical-turk/#comment-2001</link>
		<dc:creator>Web Tasarim Adana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 16:05:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This article helped for me. Thank you, web tasarim adana</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This article helped for me. Thank you, web tasarim adana</p>
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		<title>By: Manigandan K</title>
		<link>http://blog.oddhead.com/2008/08/13/the-seedy-side-of-amazons-mechanical-turk/#comment-343</link>
		<dc:creator>Manigandan K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Mar 2009 11:24:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Crowdsourcing relives most online community from PTC/PTR scams sites. Amazon&#039;s mturk.com provides
work to Crowds is appreciable.
thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Crowdsourcing relives most online community from PTC/PTR scams sites. Amazon&#8217;s mturk.com provides<br />
work to Crowds is appreciable.<br />
thanks</p>
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		<title>By: David Pennock</title>
		<link>http://blog.oddhead.com/2008/08/13/the-seedy-side-of-amazons-mechanical-turk/#comment-342</link>
		<dc:creator>David Pennock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 14:02:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Ed, congrats, looks great.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Ed, congrats, looks great.</p>
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		<title>By: Ed Chi</title>
		<link>http://blog.oddhead.com/2008/08/13/the-seedy-side-of-amazons-mechanical-turk/#comment-341</link>
		<dc:creator>Ed Chi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 08:45:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We published a paper in CHI2008 about how to use mturk for HCI research:

Aniket Kittur, Ed H. Chi, Bongwon Suh. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www-users.cs.umn.edu/~echi/papers/2008-CHI2008/2008-02-mech-turk-online-experiments-chi1049-kittur.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Crowdsourcing User Studies With Mechanical Turk&lt;/a&gt;. In Proceedings of the ACM Conference on Human-factors in Computing Systems (CHI2008), pp.453-456. ACM Press, 2008. Florence, Italy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We published a paper in CHI2008 about how to use mturk for HCI research:</p>
<p>Aniket Kittur, Ed H. Chi, Bongwon Suh. <a href="http://www-users.cs.umn.edu/~echi/papers/2008-CHI2008/2008-02-mech-turk-online-experiments-chi1049-kittur.pdf" rel="nofollow">Crowdsourcing User Studies With Mechanical Turk</a>. In Proceedings of the ACM Conference on Human-factors in Computing Systems (CHI2008), pp.453-456. ACM Press, 2008. Florence, Italy.</p>
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		<title>By: David Pennock</title>
		<link>http://blog.oddhead.com/2008/08/13/the-seedy-side-of-amazons-mechanical-turk/#comment-340</link>
		<dc:creator>David Pennock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jan 2009 18:41:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Update: Someone uncovered a name-brand company (Belkin) apparently buying positive reviews (ironically on Amazon.com) using Mechanical Turk.

http://www.thedailybackground.com/2009/01/16/exclusive-belkins-development-rep-is-hiring-people-to-write-fake-positive-amazon-reviews/

http://www.crunchgear.com/2009/01/17/belkin-paying-65-cents-for-good-reviews-on-newegg-and-amazon/

Everyone is blaming Belkin, who certainly deserves the lion&#039;s share of blame, but I still believe Amazon should do a better job of policing mturk for these spam tasks that violate their stated policy anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Update: Someone uncovered a name-brand company (Belkin) apparently buying positive reviews (ironically on Amazon.com) using Mechanical Turk.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.thedailybackground.com/2009/01/16/exclusive-belkins-development-rep-is-hiring-people-to-write-fake-positive-amazon-reviews/" rel="nofollow">http://www.thedailybackground.com/2009/01/16/exclusive-belkins-development-rep-is-hiring-people-to-write-fake-positive-amazon-reviews/</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.crunchgear.com/2009/01/17/belkin-paying-65-cents-for-good-reviews-on-newegg-and-amazon/" rel="nofollow">http://www.crunchgear.com/2009/01/17/belkin-paying-65-cents-for-good-reviews-on-newegg-and-amazon/</a></p>
<p>Everyone is blaming Belkin, who certainly deserves the lion&#8217;s share of blame, but I still believe Amazon should do a better job of policing mturk for these spam tasks that violate their stated policy anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: David Pennock</title>
		<link>http://blog.oddhead.com/2008/08/13/the-seedy-side-of-amazons-mechanical-turk/#comment-339</link>
		<dc:creator>David Pennock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 13:02:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A similar in spirit article on ReadWriteWeb on Aug 29 suggests that an &quot;mturk spam&quot; meme is in the air:

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/amazons_mechanical_turk_used_for_fraud.php&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Dark Side to Mechanical Turk&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A similar in spirit article on ReadWriteWeb on Aug 29 suggests that an &#8220;mturk spam&#8221; meme is in the air:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/amazons_mechanical_turk_used_for_fraud.php" rel="nofollow">The Dark Side to Mechanical Turk</a></p>
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		<title>By: David Pennock</title>
		<link>http://blog.oddhead.com/2008/08/13/the-seedy-side-of-amazons-mechanical-turk/#comment-338</link>
		<dc:creator>David Pennock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 20:16:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Related development:

Brendan O’Connor (Dolores Labs), together with Rion Snow, Dan Jurafsky, and Andrew Ng (Stanford) published a paper showing how mturk can be used to quickly and cheaply obtain high quality machine learning data:

http://blog.doloreslabs.com/2008/09/amt-fast-cheap-good-machine-learning/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Related development:</p>
<p>Brendan O’Connor (Dolores Labs), together with Rion Snow, Dan Jurafsky, and Andrew Ng (Stanford) published a paper showing how mturk can be used to quickly and cheaply obtain high quality machine learning data:</p>
<p><a href="http://blog.doloreslabs.com/2008/09/amt-fast-cheap-good-machine-learning/" rel="nofollow">http://blog.doloreslabs.com/2008/09/amt-fast-cheap-good-machine-learning/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
		<link>http://blog.oddhead.com/2008/08/13/the-seedy-side-of-amazons-mechanical-turk/#comment-337</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 17:33:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MTurk is indeed a fun little ecosystem to study and a great accessible tool for someone if their need fits with what turks will do.

I&#039;ve done numerous studies on Turks attempting to find out why they do all these odd ball tasks and whats most interesting is how much turk/task behavior mimics everyday web surfing in general less about making money.

Before you ask, why do that for 3 cents, ask yourself, why do you participate in blogs, social networks and everything else on the web.  What do you get out of it?

In my Valley of Turks post, I think its clear that not all turks do it for the money.  Its a challenge, its a game.  The real challenge isn&#039;t the work they do its finding cheap easy to do work thats an easy cent or buck or two.

http://www.floozyspeak.com/blog/archives/2008/08/valley_of_the_t.html

Ya gotta remember this is like a backdoor don&#039;t really care about experiment from Amazon.  It arrived on the scene in 2006, and it went through various stages of good PR mostly bad PR back then and only now have they started to look at it again and attempt to spruce it up.  Microsoft and Google have had like systems, Microsofts is pretty much gone, Google&#039;s is history but I hear its back again in Russia somewhere.

I agree with Lukas in that the Turk community sniffs out scams faster than you and I would any day.  They live on Turk scouring it daily for golden gems of work in the ruff of it all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MTurk is indeed a fun little ecosystem to study and a great accessible tool for someone if their need fits with what turks will do.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve done numerous studies on Turks attempting to find out why they do all these odd ball tasks and whats most interesting is how much turk/task behavior mimics everyday web surfing in general less about making money.</p>
<p>Before you ask, why do that for 3 cents, ask yourself, why do you participate in blogs, social networks and everything else on the web.  What do you get out of it?</p>
<p>In my Valley of Turks post, I think its clear that not all turks do it for the money.  Its a challenge, its a game.  The real challenge isn&#8217;t the work they do its finding cheap easy to do work thats an easy cent or buck or two.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.floozyspeak.com/blog/archives/2008/08/valley_of_the_t.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.floozyspeak.com/blog/archives/2008/08/valley_of_the_t.html</a></p>
<p>Ya gotta remember this is like a backdoor don&#8217;t really care about experiment from Amazon.  It arrived on the scene in 2006, and it went through various stages of good PR mostly bad PR back then and only now have they started to look at it again and attempt to spruce it up.  Microsoft and Google have had like systems, Microsofts is pretty much gone, Google&#8217;s is history but I hear its back again in Russia somewhere.</p>
<p>I agree with Lukas in that the Turk community sniffs out scams faster than you and I would any day.  They live on Turk scouring it daily for golden gems of work in the ruff of it all.</p>
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		<title>By: David Pennock</title>
		<link>http://blog.oddhead.com/2008/08/13/the-seedy-side-of-amazons-mechanical-turk/#comment-336</link>
		<dc:creator>David Pennock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 18:00:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Lukas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Lukas.</p>
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