Comments on: Intelligent blog spam http://blog.oddhead.com/2009/01/14/intelligent-blog-spam/ Musings of a computer scientist on predictions, odds, and markets Thu, 09 Sep 2010 14:37:02 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: David Pennock http://blog.oddhead.com/2009/01/14/intelligent-blog-spam/#comment-4075 David Pennock Wed, 28 Jul 2010 15:42:16 +0000 http://blog.oddhead.com/2009/01/14/intelligent-blog-spam/#comment-4075 I deleted the following comment but now restored it, with links disabled, for humor value: Name: Ellenburstyn URL: fuzal.com Submitted on: Mar 22, 2010 @ 21:36 It seems that ‘no follow’ links are still of great value in that Search Engines will still consider that site as a gateway to further sites which might otherwise not be discoverable by the Search Engine Spider. This still makes the remote sites more “findable” to search engines. [a href="fuzal.com" rel="nofollow"] Online electronics [/a] I deleted the following comment but now restored it, with links disabled, for humor value:

Name: Ellenburstyn
URL: fuzal.com
Submitted on: Mar 22, 2010 @ 21:36

It seems that ‘no follow’ links are still of great value in that Search Engines will still consider that site as a gateway to further sites which might otherwise not be discoverable by the Search Engine Spider. This still makes the remote sites more “findable” to search engines.

[a href="fuzal.com" rel="nofollow"] Online electronics [/a]

]]> By: claviers http://blog.oddhead.com/2009/01/14/intelligent-blog-spam/#comment-2119 claviers Tue, 16 Mar 2010 21:21:54 +0000 http://blog.oddhead.com/2009/01/14/intelligent-blog-spam/#comment-2119 Editor's note: This appears to be spam. Orig URL: clavierarabe-virtuel.blogspot.com h, and also you rank quite highly in google for do follow blog….. that might have something to do with people commenting your blog, that might mean that people are naturally commenting assuming that you are a do follow blog.. Editor’s note: This appears to be spam. Orig URL: clavierarabe-virtuel.blogspot.com

h, and also you rank quite highly in google for do follow blog….. that might have something to do with people commenting your blog, that might mean that people are naturally commenting assuming that you are a do follow blog..

]]> By: Bürostuhl http://blog.oddhead.com/2009/01/14/intelligent-blog-spam/#comment-1500 Bürostuhl Sat, 09 Jan 2010 19:35:15 +0000 http://blog.oddhead.com/2009/01/14/intelligent-blog-spam/#comment-1500 Editor's note: This appears to be spam. Orig URL: wilhelm-schuster.de from my point of view do follow blog may be good idea to attract traffic towards your blog. because its like bait which attract the commenter towards your site Editor’s note: This appears to be spam. Orig URL: wilhelm-schuster.de

from my point of view do follow blog may be good idea to attract traffic towards your blog. because its like bait which attract the commenter towards your site

]]> By: Antikeylogger anti keylogger http://blog.oddhead.com/2009/01/14/intelligent-blog-spam/#comment-1461 Antikeylogger anti keylogger Tue, 22 Dec 2009 06:43:44 +0000 http://blog.oddhead.com/2009/01/14/intelligent-blog-spam/#comment-1461 Editor's note: this appears to be spam. Orig URL: shubhinetwork.com i used to work for a fashion company where 1/2 of my day was spent writing on other blogs in the form of fake comments. my boss would come in and say "google emoda and see what comes up on blogs, make sure you combat all the negative ones, just sound like a happy customer". needless to say it was awful and i eventually quit. the truth is, if you produce a quality product and perform with quality service, you wont need to worry about anyone else. :) first of all,there have so many people come from different country,for example,me .i come from China.Not the every body can use English to leave the message ,they even can not read any words,but they can understand something from the pictures ,the original links or somewhere.if they want to know what's you want to tell them know ,they need spend time to check the dictionary .so ,i think it's too hard to leave a English comment here. and secondly,the frequency you update is too high .we are so excited of that .maybe cause that we forget to comments..:).. and finally, i feel that everybody will think that NO body will reply the comment that i leave here..and maybe nobody care the comment i leaved .this is not a personal blog ,and it's a public place.it's too serious to discussion some thing like "how do you feel this project?" and here is not a kind of SNS website (Social Networking Services). so nobody think that's necessary to comment here.. but .from now on ,i know that ,there still have some one care of the comment which have wealth of information. am i right? [a href="www.spyshelter.com" rel="nofollow"]Antikeylogger[/a] [a href="www.spyshelter.com" rel="nofollow">anti keylogger[/a] Editor’s note: this appears to be spam. Orig URL: shubhinetwork.com

i used to work for a fashion company where 1/2 of my day was spent writing on other blogs in the form of fake comments. my boss would come in and say “google emoda and see what comes up on blogs, make sure you combat all the negative ones, just sound like a happy customer”. needless to say it was awful and i eventually quit. the truth is, if you produce a quality product and perform with quality service, you wont need to worry about anyone else. :)

first of all,there have so many people come from different country,for example,me .i come from China.Not the every body can use English to leave the message ,they even can not read any words,but they can understand something from the pictures ,the original links or somewhere.if they want to know what’s you want to tell them know ,they need spend time to check the dictionary .so ,i think it’s too hard to leave a English comment here.

and secondly,the frequency you update is too high .we are so excited of that .maybe cause that we forget to comments..:)..

and finally, i feel that everybody will think that NO body will reply the comment that i leave here..and maybe nobody care the comment i leaved .this is not a personal blog ,and it’s a public place.it’s too serious to discussion some thing like “how do you feel this project?”

and here is not a kind of SNS website (Social Networking Services).
so nobody think that’s necessary to comment here..

but .from now on ,i know that ,there still have some one care of the comment which have wealth of information.

am i right?

[a href="www.spyshelter.com" rel="nofollow"]Antikeylogger[/a]

[a href="www.spyshelter.com" rel="nofollow">anti keylogger[/a]

]]> By: dazzardo http://blog.oddhead.com/2009/01/14/intelligent-blog-spam/#comment-1300 dazzardo Thu, 19 Nov 2009 22:43:14 +0000 http://blog.oddhead.com/2009/01/14/intelligent-blog-spam/#comment-1300 Editor's note: this appears to be spam. Orig URL: dazzardo.com/bingo.html Oh, and also you rank quite highly in google for do follow blog..... that might have something to do with people commenting your blog, that might mean that people are naturally commenting assuming that you are a do follow blog.... Editor’s note: this appears to be spam. Orig URL: dazzardo.com/bingo.html

Oh, and also you rank quite highly in google for do follow blog….. that might have something to do with people commenting your blog, that might mean that people are naturally commenting assuming that you are a do follow blog….

]]> By: dazzardo http://blog.oddhead.com/2009/01/14/intelligent-blog-spam/#comment-1299 dazzardo Thu, 19 Nov 2009 22:41:47 +0000 http://blog.oddhead.com/2009/01/14/intelligent-blog-spam/#comment-1299 Editor's note: this appears to be spam. Orig URL: dazzardo.com/bingo.html well the thing is that not all blogs are no follow and it's quite likely that an automated service wouldn't pick up the difference, for example a lot of SBM sites are no follow these days but I know that the popular autmoated software SEnuke doesn't dstinguish, also many SEOs believe that nofollow links do contribute to the serbs but as to what level they count is debated, so it is possible people are doing it on purpose hoping that nofollow still has some value or there's the possibility of automation, and there are definatly software's which would be capable of pulling relevent comments because I've seen softwares much much more impressive than this, I am currently working on a rather interesting project for blog scraping prevention, the idea is that it will give them a random bollox feed like a nursery rhyme with a link to one of my sites inserted in it, and it's testing well, next I'm going to try and screw the comment spammers over, if somebody can think up a way to do this let me know. Editor’s note: this appears to be spam. Orig URL: dazzardo.com/bingo.html

well the thing is that not all blogs are no follow and it’s quite likely that an automated service wouldn’t pick up the difference, for example a lot of SBM sites are no follow these days but I know that the popular autmoated software SEnuke doesn’t dstinguish, also many SEOs believe that nofollow links do contribute to the serbs but as to what level they count is debated, so it is possible people are doing it on purpose hoping that nofollow still has some value or there’s the possibility of automation, and there are definatly software’s which would be capable of pulling relevent comments because I’ve seen softwares much much more impressive than this, I am currently working on a rather interesting project for blog scraping prevention, the idea is that it will give them a random bollox feed like a nursery rhyme with a link to one of my sites inserted in it, and it’s testing well, next I’m going to try and screw the comment spammers over, if somebody can think up a way to do this let me know.

]]> By: FoolsGold http://blog.oddhead.com/2009/01/14/intelligent-blog-spam/#comment-391 FoolsGold Wed, 11 Feb 2009 13:39:48 +0000 http://blog.oddhead.com/2009/01/14/intelligent-blog-spam/#comment-391 >"...ignorant villagers in India are not really as responsible for comment-spam as the various Search Optimization firms in California are." Just a further note about California versus India: I used the analogy of comment-spam being likened to four-walling. It might be interesting to note that Four Walling is a term most often associated with the Hollywood film industry. It might also be interesting to note that most of the firms doing this comment-spam seem to be located in Encino, Studio City, and Newport Beach which are ofcourse hotbeds of film-industry financing as well as Internet Search Engine Optimization. Never before has it been so true that: We have me the enemy and he is us! >”…ignorant villagers in India are not really as responsible for comment-spam as the various Search Optimization firms in California are.”

Just a further note about California versus India:

I used the analogy of comment-spam being likened to four-walling. It might be interesting to note that Four Walling is a term most often associated with the Hollywood film industry. It might also be interesting to note that most of the firms doing this comment-spam seem to be located in Encino, Studio City, and Newport Beach which are ofcourse hotbeds of film-industry financing as well as Internet Search Engine Optimization.

Never before has it been so true that: We have me the enemy and he is us!

]]> By: FoolsGold http://blog.oddhead.com/2009/01/14/intelligent-blog-spam/#comment-390 FoolsGold Wed, 28 Jan 2009 08:58:33 +0000 http://blog.oddhead.com/2009/01/14/intelligent-blog-spam/#comment-390 Underground economy? Undocumented economy perhaps. When American ports were open to pirate vessels that enriched merchants and pleased local consumers and when American merchants openly made fortunes buying goods in Boston and selling them in Madagascar pirate lairs it was clear that piracy was a major industry that was in no way an underground economy. I think spam will probably prove to be equally spaning the great, but largely fanciful, void that supposedly separates the underground economy. Search Optimization 'experts' probably make a great deal of money and undoubtedly exert great pressure in shaping the comment-spam traffic. Just as we don't really blame the poverty stricken villagers for some "mama-san" board but instead hold some hardware manufacturer responsible, so too will we find out that ignorant villagers in India are not really as responsible for comment-spam as the various Search Optimization firms in California are. Underground economy? Undocumented economy perhaps. When American ports were open to pirate vessels that enriched merchants and pleased local consumers and when American merchants openly made fortunes buying goods in Boston and selling them in Madagascar pirate lairs it was clear that piracy was a major industry that was in no way an underground economy.
I think spam will probably prove to be equally spaning the great, but largely fanciful, void that supposedly separates the underground economy.
Search Optimization ‘experts’ probably make a great deal of money and undoubtedly exert great pressure in shaping the comment-spam traffic.
Just as we don’t really blame the poverty stricken villagers for some “mama-san” board but instead hold some hardware manufacturer responsible, so too will we find out that ignorant villagers in India are not really as responsible for comment-spam as the various Search Optimization firms in California are.

]]> By: David Pennock http://blog.oddhead.com/2009/01/14/intelligent-blog-spam/#comment-389 David Pennock Tue, 27 Jan 2009 16:56:56 +0000 http://blog.oddhead.com/2009/01/14/intelligent-blog-spam/#comment-389 Thanks FoolsGold: insightful as always. Makes sense. A fascinating underground economy. Thanks FoolsGold: insightful as always. Makes sense. A fascinating underground economy.

]]> By: FoolsGold http://blog.oddhead.com/2009/01/14/intelligent-blog-spam/#comment-388 FoolsGold Tue, 27 Jan 2009 11:35:14 +0000 http://blog.oddhead.com/2009/01/14/intelligent-blog-spam/#comment-388 My understanding is that semi-intelligent commentspam placed by a human is done at a rate of 1,000 such spams for $300.00. It seems that 'no follow' links are still of great value in that Search Engines will still consider that site as a gateway to further sites which might otherwise not be discoverable by the Search Engine Spider. This still makes the remote sites more "findable" to search engines. It seems that vote pooling of OCR recognition algorithms is still more expensive and time consuming than simply paying someone in a remote Indian village to type the re-Captcha words manually. My understanding is that semi-intelligent commentspam placed by a human is done at a rate of 1,000 such spams for $300.00.

It seems that ‘no follow’ links are still of great value in that Search Engines will still consider that site as a gateway to further sites which might otherwise not be discoverable by the Search Engine Spider. This still makes the remote sites more “findable” to search engines.

It seems that vote pooling of OCR recognition algorithms is still more expensive and time consuming than simply paying someone in a remote Indian village to type the re-Captcha words manually.

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