Comments on: Thank you Bangalore http://blog.oddhead.com/2009/06/17/thank-you-bangalore/ Musings of a computer scientist and Yahoo on prediction markets, gambling, and estimating the odds of everything Fri, 12 Mar 2010 02:39:46 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Military Vet http://blog.oddhead.com/2009/06/17/thank-you-bangalore/comment-page-1/#comment-1547 Military Vet Wed, 20 Jan 2010 07:58:21 +0000 http://blog.oddhead.com/?p=707#comment-1547 Capital of the Southern state of Karnataka, Bangalore today is Asia's fastest growing cosmopolitan city. It is home to some of the most high tech industries in India. Capital of the Southern state of Karnataka, Bangalore today is Asia’s fastest growing cosmopolitan city. It is home to some of the most high tech industries in India.

]]> By: Service Apartments in Bangalore-Apex suites http://blog.oddhead.com/2009/06/17/thank-you-bangalore/comment-page-1/#comment-1492 Service Apartments in Bangalore-Apex suites Tue, 05 Jan 2010 10:57:06 +0000 http://blog.oddhead.com/?p=707#comment-1492 Thank you David for your speech. Thank you David for your speech.

]]> By: Arun http://blog.oddhead.com/2009/06/17/thank-you-bangalore/comment-page-1/#comment-526 Arun Tue, 07 Jul 2009 09:21:40 +0000 http://blog.oddhead.com/?p=707#comment-526 Try changing your wordpress admin password and then setting right the feed. Try changing your wordpress admin password and then setting right the feed.

]]> By: David Pennock http://blog.oddhead.com/2009/06/17/thank-you-bangalore/comment-page-1/#comment-517 David Pennock Mon, 29 Jun 2009 18:18:28 +0000 http://blog.oddhead.com/?p=707#comment-517 Thank you Varun Thank you Varun

]]> By: Varun Aggarwala http://blog.oddhead.com/2009/06/17/thank-you-bangalore/comment-page-1/#comment-514 Varun Aggarwala Mon, 29 Jun 2009 15:41:02 +0000 http://blog.oddhead.com/?p=707#comment-514 It was a pleasure attending your talk. It was a pleasure attending your talk.

]]> By: David Pennock http://blog.oddhead.com/2009/06/17/thank-you-bangalore/comment-page-1/#comment-487 David Pennock Sun, 21 Jun 2009 10:37:18 +0000 http://blog.oddhead.com/?p=707#comment-487 Kunalkant: Thanks so much for the kind words and for attending my talk: glad you like it. I agree. FoolsGold: Sorry this post was so lengthy and difficult to navigate. As for your ad clicking (non)behavior: you are an atypical consumer. "I NEVER click on an ad, even if it is precisely what I am looking for" "I might re-type the URL in another browser window" Then aren't you punishing yourself as well? (Or at best wasting time?) Web content is mostly free because of advertising. The best kinds of ads have useful information that you actually want (think yellow pages). If you truly don't like even useful ads, then are you willing to pay for web content? Kunalkant: Thanks so much for the kind words and for attending my talk: glad you like it. I agree.

FoolsGold: Sorry this post was so lengthy and difficult to navigate. As for your ad clicking (non)behavior: you are an atypical consumer.

“I NEVER click on an ad, even if it is precisely what I am looking for”

“I might re-type the URL in another browser window”

Then aren’t you punishing yourself as well? (Or at best wasting time?)

Web content is mostly free because of advertising. The best kinds of ads have useful information that you actually want (think yellow pages). If you truly don’t like even useful ads, then are you willing to pay for web content?

]]> By: FoolsGold http://blog.oddhead.com/2009/06/17/thank-you-bangalore/comment-page-1/#comment-486 FoolsGold Sat, 20 Jun 2009 21:02:15 +0000 http://blog.oddhead.com/?p=707#comment-486 Wow. What has the internet come to? I thought the topic might be interesting, but links were buried in amongst a trip report about airports and traffic jams. Not in the mood to hear about the Philadelphia airport, NEVER in the mood to hear about Banglahore airport. When I started clicking on links I got a difficult to hear video and could not find any transcript which is what I would have preferred. I finally found the slide file and used that to determine what must have been discussed. The one critical point that seems to be untreated was that users do not reward advertisers, they punish them! I NEVER click on an ad, even if it is precisely what I am looking for. At most I might re-type the URL in another browser window so as to avoid any click-reward or subsequent purchase-reward going to any of the entities involved in the advertisement. Also consider a firm such as Netflix, they are well known to have all these spam like windows that pop up at other sites, does anyone really think that some sort of auction is going get me to visit Netflix.. ever!! Do you think I will EVER eat at Applebees? Las Vegas Travel ...? Okay you can auction off the proximity space on the search page but there is one thing clear: I will most likely avoid any such high bidders, even if I have to go out of my way to do it. Most gamblers know that the better prices are obtained directly from the airlines, not the travel aggregators that bid for Proximity Space. Most gamblers also know that rooms are best booked directly with a hotel and not with any of these zillions of aggregator pages that exist. Most gamblers know that a casino can not comp your room if you buy it through a travel aggregator, casinos can only comp rooms bought directly through the hotel. So what is the auction doing? Its displaying disadvantageous options to the ill-informed searcher. Triumph of computer marketing, whether automated or not! Its nice that a Vegas Sky Diving company can have an automated auction market, but my response is and always will be "No, I ain't gonna go skydiving!" Not in Vegas, not anywhere else! Wow. What has the internet come to? I thought the topic might be interesting, but links were buried in amongst a trip report about airports and traffic jams. Not in the mood to hear about the Philadelphia airport, NEVER in the mood to hear about Banglahore airport. When I started clicking on links I got a difficult to hear video and could not find any transcript which is what I would have preferred. I finally found the slide file and used that to determine what must have been discussed.
The one critical point that seems to be untreated was that users do not reward advertisers, they punish them! I NEVER click on an ad, even if it is precisely what I am looking for. At most I might re-type the URL in another browser window so as to avoid any click-reward or subsequent purchase-reward going to any of the entities involved in the advertisement. Also consider a firm such as Netflix, they are well known to have all these spam like windows that pop up at other sites, does anyone really think that some sort of auction is going get me to visit Netflix.. ever!! Do you think I will EVER eat at Applebees?
Las Vegas Travel …? Okay you can auction off the proximity space on the search page but there is one thing clear: I will most likely avoid any such high bidders, even if I have to go out of my way to do it. Most gamblers know that the better prices are obtained directly from the airlines, not the travel aggregators that bid for Proximity Space. Most gamblers also know that rooms are best booked directly with a hotel and not with any of these zillions of aggregator pages that exist. Most gamblers know that a casino can not comp your room if you buy it through a travel aggregator, casinos can only comp rooms bought directly through the hotel. So what is the auction doing? Its displaying disadvantageous options to the ill-informed searcher. Triumph of computer marketing, whether automated or not! Its nice that a Vegas Sky Diving company can have an automated auction market, but my response is and always will be “No, I ain’t gonna go skydiving!” Not in Vegas, not anywhere else!

]]> By: Kunalkant http://blog.oddhead.com/2009/06/17/thank-you-bangalore/comment-page-1/#comment-485 Kunalkant Sat, 20 Jun 2009 19:12:54 +0000 http://blog.oddhead.com/?p=707#comment-485 Thanks David for wonderful talk. It was really pleasure to listen the magic of hammer aka Prediction Market and concept applied in different situations, specially in advertising. I believe, PM needs more attention and consumption for better world and decision making. Love to hear more on applications of PM Thanks David for wonderful talk.
It was really pleasure to listen the magic of hammer aka Prediction Market and concept applied in different situations, specially in advertising.
I believe, PM needs more attention and consumption for better world and decision making.

Love to hear more on applications of PM

]]> By: David Pennock http://blog.oddhead.com/2009/06/17/thank-you-bangalore/comment-page-1/#comment-491 David Pennock Thu, 18 Jun 2009 15:57:06 +0000 http://blog.oddhead.com/?p=707#comment-491 Thanks Daniel. Ah, the eternal question. Thanks Daniel. Ah, the eternal question.

]]> By: Daniel Reeves http://blog.oddhead.com/2009/06/17/thank-you-bangalore/comment-page-1/#comment-490 Daniel Reeves Thu, 18 Jun 2009 15:46:02 +0000 http://blog.oddhead.com/?p=707#comment-490 Love the blow-by-blow! The hockey interlude is adorable. One question: What *would* Sharad do? Love the blow-by-blow! The hockey interlude is adorable.

One question: What *would* Sharad do?

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